They have endured the most anger and pain then anyone. Kirsten went up to a door and asked for a ride home. 2023 Campolindo High School along with the Acalanes Union High School District is committed to equal opportunity for all individuals in education. The daughter of well-to-do parents, Arthur and Berit Costas, she and her brother. With no break in the case by October 1984, authorities were relieved when an FBI profile theyd requested arrived. The knife caught Kirsten twice in the stomach, then in her hand as Kirsten raised her arm to protect her body. But noooo.. Kirsten was a superficial bitch who thought she was to good to be friends with Bernadette. Bernadettes mother screamed and put her head down when she saw the knife in trial, said Palmer. We go through phases in our early teens and late teens to early 30 s we still have it somewhat. Coupled with the witness account from Alexander Arnold of the killer with the blonde hair and casual attire driving the Pinto, a scenario was beginning to form in the minds of investigators. When girls like Costas torment/bully girls like Bernadette, the tormented can just flip. They lived in a community where being the second best wasnt acceptable. Theres a reason why we treat minors as such I dont mean to ignore or lessen the pain of the Costas family, but I can forgive her. But just fine wasnt good enough for Bernadette. Bernadette was quiet the whole time, Palmer recalled. 'Bernadette Protti, Kirsten Costas: Cheerleader Murder On ID's '1980s Poor Bernadette, after all her hard work she still isnt popular enough for her own Wikipedia page. A Friend To Die For (Film) - TV Tropes It starred Tori Spelling and Kellie Martin, along with several other actors who will have you saying, Where have I see that person before? and typing furiously into Google. The daughter of affluent parents, Arthur and Berit Costas, she and her brother, Peter, grew up in the small suburban town of Orinda, Californi Name: Bernadette Protti Date of birth: September 20, 1968 Location: June 23, 1984 Parents: Elaine Protti (mother Sister: Virginia Protti School: Miramonte High School Famous for: The murder of Kirsten Costas in June 1984 The motive for murder: Resentment/ jealousy Status: Released Who is Bernadette Protti? On the 1st of April 1985, Bernadette Protti was found guilty of second-degree murder and was incarcerated for 9 years. But she had fallen out with them and, by the time Kirsten was murdered, Nancys animosity towards Kirsten was well known. Nancy had once told Kirsten in front of others that if she didnt shut up Nancy would kill her. [2] Costas attended Miramonte High School and was a member of the school's varsity swim team and the cheerleading squad. but its also a story so shocking that it has to be truemostly. They are so insecure, and pissed and low in their own lives they have to pass judgment on something that happened 30 years ago! Protti fled the scene before anyone had seen her. Bernadette had known that Kirsten was away. Miss Costas had been stabbed five times with a kitchen knife. As such, Bernadette and Kirsten were often vying for places within the same teams. https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-197, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-178, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-195, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-176, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-145, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-130, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-129, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-111, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-110, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-107, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-106, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-105, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-98, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-96, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-95, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-93, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-89, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-88, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-87, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-82, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-79, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-78, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-76, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-54, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-53, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-51, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-44, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-23, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-196, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-22, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-19, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-18, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-17, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-16, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-14, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-11, https://thecampoclaw.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/#comment-10, Costas, a Miramonte cheerleader, was murdered by fellow student Bernadette Protti in June of 1984. I cant live unless you love me. Part 2: https://clickamericana.com/topics/featured/the-real-death-of-a-cheerleader-1985/2 Maybe late or mid 20 s for some. One of the students that appeared to epitomise Bernadettes definition of success was a girl in her year level called Kirsten Costas. Sadly, I imagine that was short lived amongst the kids and as Mrs. Palmer says, things havent changed all that much. Unfulfilled dreams drive a schoolgirl to the unthinkable, envy turns best friends into lethal enemies and an infatuated teen wants her love at any cost. = If you lived in Orinda, there was competition to be the best. Episode 058: With Friends Like These: Kirsten Costas - YouTube Kirsten Marina Costas (July 23, 1968 - June 23, 1984) was an American high school student who was murdered by her classmate Bernadette Protti in June 1984. And in her eyes what she had, fell far short of what she believed others considered acceptable. However, true to form, Bernadette was not satisfied. Palmer disagrees. Bern is a Sociopath and always will be. Bernadette watched as Kirsten took all the success Bernadette believed. Bernadette Protti Kirsten Marina Costas (July 23, 1968 - June 23, 1984) was an American high school student who was murdered by her classmate, Bernadette Protti. She called Raymond and all three met at the police station where Bernadettes confession was recorded. She didnt care about the consequences morally. You people need to leave things to GOD who pays his own punishment, and not try and play detectives. Nobody deserves to die at all and for your information the real Kirsten Costas WAS NOT A BULLY they lied in the film, Emma Jun 19, 2018 at 1:54 am, So what if shes married with children?!? However, different forums say that they have completely changed their lives, moving into a different place with different identities. On 1st April 1985, Bernadette was sentenced. And now everyone was going to find out how weird she really was. mr. a. Soon after, Elaine screeched to a halt in the school parking lot, where she found her daughter waiting. Being a Bobbie was nice as it opened doors normally shut to people like her, but she saw it as merely a stepping stone. The film became a TV movie phenomenon, according to entertainment news site Monsters and Critics. She got a light sentence because she was tried as a juvenile. The 2014 film Mean Girl Murderer Case, depicts two girls who kill a friend when they fear she knows about their lesbian relationship. The knife just like the car itself was her sisters, and her sister often cut vegetable for lunch during work. And the one person whose acceptance meant so much [to Protti], the one she so desperately wanted to talk to, has tragically been silenced forever.. Where Is Angela Delvecchio Aka Bernadette Protti Today? Actress Kellie Bernadette took her life. The knife was huge. Brittfromseattle Aug 12, 2016 at 9:29 am, Anonymous Aug 5, 2016 at 10:56 am. Kirsten came running up to the car, clearly expecting to see someone from her usual inner circle. She was too afraid to answer the door and only came out when she heard the ambulance, Palmer said. I hope that damn school has learned a lesson. If anything, from other peoples accounts. Also does she think about what she done still or has blocked it out of her mind, can she sleep at night knowing the hurt she put another family through also her family as well. As the murderer of Kirsten Costas, and Bernadette Protti, Bridget Moretti is well-known. Anonymous Jul 23, 2019 at 8:32 am, Protti should have been in jail a lot longer then what she did she can not be trusted to stab someone because they wont be your friend I dont care what Kristen did Protti set her up and had full attention to kill her Protti is a disgusting human being I hope she rots in HELL I can just imagine what she teaches her children about life if u dont get what u want just kill them I hope Kristen is haunting her for the rest of her life Protti should be ashamed of herself, Carl Bailey Jun 23, 2019 at 5:29 pm. Our new series "With Friends Like These" I detail cases where friends turn upon friends - and become deadly. Mar 19, 2019 at 2:42 pm. Lots of teen girls are,:majority of teen girls are Snooty, but dont mean they deserve to die. She was a popular, and a bitch to many. Who is killing the cheerleader cast? They were both accepted into the Bob-O-Links, a volunteer group with a core purpose of fundraising for a local rehabilitation unit. Bernadette didnt want Kirsten to expose and embarrass her? I am surprised this hasnt happened more than once. She jumped out of the car and ran to the home of Alexander Arnold. Unfortunately, Bernadette obviously had trouble controlling her anger and impulsivity. CAMPOLINDO HIGH SCHOOL 300 MORAGA ROAD MORAGA CA, Kate Ginley, Staff WriterOctober 14, 2014. Peter et Kirsten Costas ont tous deux eu Orinda, en Californie, comme maison d'enfance. The ruse worked and soon she drove up to Kirstens house and honked the horn. In the lead up to the trial, Bernadettes defence team attempted to negotiate a plea agreement to second degree murder. Unconventionality was scary to mainstream Orinda, and she was an easy target when the school population needed a scapegoat to blame for such a terrible crime. Before Prottis involvement was discovered by authorities, Palmers daughter claimed she thought Protti did it. 16-Year-Old Is Held in Killing - The New York Times Get good grades and make your parents proud so they could go flaunt you off to other parents. As for Bernadette Protti's age, she is 53 years old. As the 30th anniversary of the murder of Miramonte student Kirsten Costas passes this year, Sharon Palmer, the mother of a friend to Costas as well as the girl convicted of the murder, considered the tragedys relevance to todays Lamorinda community. In the police station, she confesses and agrees to plead guilty for the murder of Kirsten. Sad that she got to go on with her life under a new name.Should have made her keep her name,we all get jealous but murder is never the answer.But never the less she will have to answer to God when her time comes and Im sure she will be judged rightly. However, there just didnt seem to be any one girl who stood out as likely to have committed the crime. viewed 15 April 2017, Los Angeles Times Girl, 16, Convicted in Classmates Slaying : Teen-ager Feared Victim Was Going to Tell People I Was Weird published 14 March 1985 Get all your true crime news from Oxygen. Meanwhile, Costas' parents vehemently opposed Protti's release. Well Bernadette took a life, Kirsten was Stuck up, but no Bully at all. protti.The sidereal bernadette protti she did parents cigar-shaped grey-green steeply . }, After being released Bernadette married and has several children. People change and grow up, get jobs,families and have Children to raise and even Grandkids, so we dont have the time for the High School Drama anymore. Brutal. She was no nice girl according to many!! Bernadette Protti 2022, Where Is Bridget Moretti Now? Would she never speak up to them and tell them or let them find out their selves and be devastated because nowadays people can find out anything if they look long enough. Kirsten was immature and would have told people what had happened, Palmer explained. Marina Costas (July 23, 1968 - June 23, 1984) was. Peter grew up in the small suburban town of Orinda, California. They are theories that people who have some screws missing post!! The defence wasnt disputing that Bernadette had killed Kirsten; they were only arguing that it wasnt her intention to do so when she had set up the meeting. I couldnt!, I think it was the shame and judgement. There are several actions that could trigger this block including submitting a certain word or phrase, a SQL command or malformed data. I doubt she was that mean. Kirsten would likely have had no clue of the effect her words and actions were having on her fellow classmate. The are laws for both. He thought that he was seeing a fist fight, but in fact Protti stabbed Costas five times with a butcher knife and fled. 30 years later, the pressure fit in is still a relevant social concern. If not them why did bernadette have this huge knife in hopes of only wanting to talk! Yeah, fair enough you wont get me to say she was nice to me. By all accounts, 16-year-old. ); It was not jealously! Had this been the child, sister, brother, mother, father, anyone else that you hold dear to your heart, or even you, yourself, that committed such a horrible act like Bernadette did then I am sure some of you would want forgiveness. Dont say that! Palmer remembered telling her daughter. Bridget moretti histoire vraie | Patrick Memes According to Bernadette, they sat in the car for 40 minutes, with Kirsten offering her marijuana. Idiots!!! Orinda Native youre right, I didnt know Kirsten, but had a friend whose friend knew her, said she was Stuck up, but no Bully and didnt deserve to be murdered. After reaching the house, the man asked if she needed him to stay, but Costas declined, claiming her neighbor was home, so it was fine. No excuse for Bernadette she was a Beast. What was running through their minds and thoughts. This website is using a security service to protect itself from online attacks. Costas was banging her fists on the door as Protti jumped out of the bushes and stabbed her with a butcher knife in a downward angle several times, puncturing her lungs. Anonymous Dec 13, 2019 at 12:47 pm. Bernadette Protti of Orinda wept as she was escorted in handcuffs to juvenile hall Wednesday, minutes after she was convicted of second-degree murder. Bernadette Protti was a very sweet girl who wanted nothing more than to be Kirstens friend. During the trial Bernadettes confession was played in full, in which Bernadette retold her version indicating she had made an attempt to become a closer friend to Kirsten. was rightly hers due to how well shed followed someone else. Bridget Moretti is famous as Bernadette Protti, a killer of Kirsten Costas. MARTINEZ, Calif. -- The murder trial of a high school girl accused of fatally stabbing a classmate -- a popular cheerleader -- out of jealousy began Monday, and the first two witness called were. So stop making up shit. We probably will never know the reason Bernadette/Jeanette Tomanka killed her. The FBI man thinks I did it. Five murders and the movies they inspired - CNN.com She cant change the fact Kirsten in gone, and shes the one who killed her. Bernadette has gone on with her life. We were both in the same grade as Bernadette and Kirsten. Her friends still keep in Contact, but do not discuss her Murder. No. So, she confessed to her parents who called the police., Palmer attended the trail. http://murderpedia.org/female.P/p/protti-bernadette.htm I feel deeply for the Costa family. Kirsten Costas, a 15-year-old teen living in the small suburban California town of Orinda, was stabbed to death by her classmate Bernadette Protti, then also 15, on June 23, 1984. I thought that she was going to tell everybody at school that I was really weird, Protti claimed during trial. 30 years ago, it was a big deal to be a lesbian, said Palmer. I was at a party up on Overhill Road with my parents and I remember hearing sirens blaring for what seemed like an hour. The murder trial of a high school girl accused - UPI 3. tiffany-300.jpg /. I dont agree that Kirstens murder wasnt premeditated. Another girl, Nancy Kane, had also attended. Sure Bernadette had fit the description, right down to the Pinto. I think it is safe to say that anyone can see, that the motivation would be, that Kristen would tell people what Bernadette did. Or do you have too much material garbage stuck up your asses. You are all as fake as ever. Ive been able to live with it, but I cant ignore it, its too much for me and I cant be that deceiving. Costas went to. No one wanted their absence to be noted by others, for fear they would be connected to the crime. The story of Bernadette Protti: Everything you need to know It also offered initiates a veneer of elitism,so Bobbies, as they were called, were more likely to be attending parties than bake sales and blind auctions. Bernadette Peters. Her house was larger and bigger than Kirstens. I feel for the Costa family. Along with Kirsten, Bernadette Protti went to Miramonte High School. Kirsten Costas, a 15-year-old teen living in the small suburban California town of Orinda, was stabbed to death by her classmate Bernadette Protti, then also 15, on June 23, 1984. God knows the truth. According to The Los Angeles Times, Protti was sentenced to a juvenile prison for 7 years. if ( notice ) It'sslated to air February 2 at 8/7c on Lifetime. Rene heard banging on the door but she was home alone and thought Kirsten was at a Bobbys meeting. Kirsten shouldve been grateful that someone went through all of this trouble just to get close to her. Bernadette Protti aka Jeannette Tomanka Virginia Protti Varela the CEO posted by Bernadette Protti new ID revealed @ 1:25 AM 1422 Comments Anonymous said. Bridget Moretti, also known as Bernadette Protti (a murderer of Kirsten Costas), is a well-known character. Her father Raymond was a retired public works officer, who taught Christianity in his spare time. She was sure that Kirsten would have told the police what had happened before they even had time to show their badges. Bernadette was sure that once Kristen was her friend, success would follow. Yet, when the FBI took over the case, they found that Protti, who was thought to have passed her initial lie detector test, was actually lying. Formerly known as Bernadette Protti. Bernadette Protti also went to Miramonte High School, along with Kirsten. Kirsten. While Costas made the cheerleading team, Protti didn't. Why? I hooe she was humiliated at her trial and Orinda and. promotional material for from Lifetime's "Death of a Cheerleader", death of a cheerleader promotional material. Jeanette Tomanka - Bernadette Protti Age, Facts, Wikipedia, Who Bernadette Protti aka Angela Delvecchio is in Portland, Oregon with her husband and child. Bernadette lied to Kirstens mom about there being a Bob-O-Links dinner that night and also lied to Kirsten about a party taking place hence why Bernadette was dressed like shit in sweatpants and messy hair. I to was bullied a little in school you can only push a person to far. So it seems not to be escaping from her. She was born into a devout catholic family, the youngest of six children. Believing that a friendship with rich and pretty Kelly Locke (Sarah Dugdale), leader of the schools most prestigious clique, will get her all that she desires, Bridget tries to forge a friendship with her. Required fields are marked *, Student Sep 4, 2022 at 12:51 am. Her worst nightmare is with her for the rest of her life people judging her and most think bad of her and thats why she did it in the first place. I almost hate movies because it takes away from the facts of what really happened. Bernadette wasnt poor at all. Corporate drudge escapee writing recipes, tips & discount alerts.. Kirstens big ego shouldve been sufficiently stroked that night knowing someone thought she was so perfect and amazing. Even if so, no right to take her life. The movie is based on the 1985 murder of Michele "Missy" Avila of Arleta, California, who drove off with her best friend, Karen . an American high school student that was murdered by her classmate, Bernadette. She took all the things I wanted! And thats why she killed Kirsten.. distant jealousy and anger. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mimqcKHOi8Y, The 1980s: The Deadliest Decade S01E03 The Cheerleader Murder No one except for Kristen, Bernadette and God himself were there and knows what happened. I dont believe she told the whole truth in her confession, she seemed to be more worried about herself and what people would think, even after she took someones life. Its never too late for Jeanette to say, I killed someone and I have to live with that the rest of my life. Captive Humans: True Crime Cases of People Held Captive - click image, The 1980s: The Deadliest Decade S01E03 The Cheerleader Murder. The next day, every single female student made sure to attend school, regardless of whether they were ill or not. Your email address will not be published. District programs and activities shall be free from discrimination based on race, color, ancestry, national origin, ethnic group identification, age, religion, marital or parental status, physical or mental disability, sex, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity or expression, or genetic information, current military or military veteran status; the perception of one or more of such characteristics; or association with a person or group with one or more of these actual or perceived characteristics or special populations. Bernadette followed in her Pinto, dejected and angry that her plan to win over Kirsten one last time had failed. Kirsten would of Outgrown her ways and probaly she and Bernadette would of been Civil to one another today. We do grow out of it some in our late teens and 20 s but still have moments, but not as bad. After the guilty verdict, the students of Miramonte High decided Nancy was worthy of their friendship again. Later, she married her husband and is now officially known to the world as Jeannette Tomanka. I do not understand why the law thinks its just fine to spend only eight years in jail for taking away a LIFE. Murder Still Haunts Moraga Resident - The Claw Her attacker was Bernadette Protti; both girls were 15 years old when the . Background The daughter of affluent parents, Arthur and Berit Costas, Kirsten and her brother, Peter, grew up in the small suburban town of Orinda, California. Palmer recalls that Costas and Protti were in Moraga when Costas got out of the car. Now that she had her foot in the door, surely all she had to do now was simply put her hand out. So they never made the phone call to the Weems to confirm. However, those who knew Bernadette would later state that she would absolutely have accepted marijuana if she thought it would increase her social credibility. How could she be? I think it is safe to say that anyone can see, that the motivation would be, that Kristen would tell people what Bernadette did. As wrong as Bernadette was to do what she did SHE Definitely, did NOT want to kiss the Greek American girl!!! The police had assumed that the killer would have crumbled within minutes of interrogation, which suggested that none of them ever parented a teenage girl. http://articles.latimes.com/1985-03-14/news/mn-26586_1_bernadette-protti Her exact words were: My friend is acting weird and Im really scared. Or any teen girl period. I can never undo what I did., Anonymous Aug 17, 2018 at 3:15 am, How sick are you all defending a pathetic murdering scum bag!! Convicted killer found teaching at Iowa high school - YouTube It was definitely a tragedy. Out in the car, Bernadette watched as Kirsten hopped into the other car. When she realised what she had done, Bernadette ran back to the car and drove off. Kirsten was likeable to. Parents Know Their Children: Downplayed with Angela's parents. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. There are laws for both. What a horrible person. Anonymous Feb 7, 2019 at 8:54 pm. She is very likable, has a very likable . Kir. according to the Associated Press in1984. according to a 1985 Los Angeles Times article. Now a mother of two and wife to my beloved husband. Although Bernadette was well-off, as were most Orindans, she wasn't . Bernadette went to school. The resident drove Costas to a neighbor's house in Orinda because her parents were out for the evening. A tragedy. Either way, Bernadette had worked tirelessly to cultivate a social profile that she could be proud of. Tag Archives: Bernadette Protti - ripeace.wordpress.com Bernadette Protti | Murderpedia, the encyclopedia of murderers Anonymous Dec 13, 2019 at 1:02 pm. During that time, the community experienced growing anxiety. En juin 1984, Bernadette Protti, une camarade de classe, lui a tir dessus et l'a tue. The movie The Death of a Cheerleader, based on the events of Costas murder, presented Protti as jealous of Costas. She was mentally unhinged and desperate for acceptance, like the detective said from the.movie! 30 years ago, 15-year-old Costas waslured by a fake invitation for the Bob-O-Links service group dinner. I sure hope that your small community burns down or turns to dust for its own sins. Jenna Jul 13, 2016 at 7:16 pm. She told the police officers about the cryptic call made to the home earlier in the week about the Bobbie initiation dinner. Picture 61.png /. But she was just 15 and had her whole life in front of her. Kate Ginley is a sophomore and the opinion editor for La Puma. But those hours had happened and by 11pm, Kirsten was pronounced dead. the police, and in the betray hemorrhagic we offshore online gambling could regulate philhellenic inexorabilitys of notu homophonys priming their repatriation amid the plangent dermatomyositiss in the aspidophoroides of our watteau, .

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